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Watch New York City Houses of Worship on PBS. See more from Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly. KIM LAWTON, correspondent: New York has been called the most secular city in America. But don’t tell that to Tony Carnes. He has made it his mission to systematically document all the religious sites in New York’s five boroughs, […]

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PBS TV films Journey artist sketching altar of St. Barbara Greek Orthodox Church

Watch New York City Houses of Worship on PBS. See more from Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly.

KIM LAWTON, correspondent: New York has been called the most secular city in America. But don’t tell that to Tony Carnes. He has made it his mission to systematically document all the religious sites in New York’s five boroughs, as he puts it, block by block, alleyway by alleyway. He and his team of freelancers have found a lot to document.

TONY CARNES (Editor and Publisher, A Journey Through NYC Religions): New York is experiencing a religious surge.

LAWTON: The project is called “A Journey Through NYC Religions.” Since they began in July of 2010, Carnes and his team have visited nearly 6,500 houses of worship and other religious sites. He estimates that’s more than 70 percent of them. They interview, photograph, videotape, even draw, and post their articles and other material on their website, Carnes says he launched the project because he believed a vital part of New York life was being given short shrift.

CARNES: I noticed two things: one, that religion was really booming here in the city, and I also noticed it wasn’t covered very intensively.

LAWTON: Carnes says for his team each visit, or journey, should be an adventure.

CARNES: A classic journey is we just go cold and we try to perfect a…sort of like a foreign journalist parachuting in a land and making a real sync with people and really getting into the story all in one day. Now if we find something that’s really interesting, we would go down in deep, and we’ll come back.

LAWTON: On this weekend, we followed along as they focused on the historic neighborhood around Eldridge Street on Manhattan’s Lower East Side. In the late 1800s, this was a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, where many Eastern European immigrants worked in the garment industry and lived in crowded tenements. In the 1920s, new legal restrictions curtailed Jewish immigration and the neighborhood slowly became a center for Greek immigrants. Then, New York’s famous Chinatown began spilling over and the street took on a distinctly Asian character. Today, Latino families are moving in, as are Muslims from Asia and Africa.

CARNES: People’s faith paths come from all over the world and flow into Eldridge Street from the head of it and then go on down to the end and you have the history of world religions. Right here.

LAWTON: Our first stop, a Saturday morning service at the Buddhist Association of New York, where monks and nuns in the Mahayana tradition are chanting the Lotus sutra. Many of the people here are Fujinese-speaking Chinese immigrants, but after talking with some of the leaders, Carnes and his associate, Christopher Smith, learn the temple is reaching out to people from other backgrounds as well. When they visit a site, “A Journey”’s reporters begin with a set list of questions they ask everybody.

CARNES: What’s unique about this place? If you came to me and you said, “Tony, you should come to our congregation because…” Well, what’s that’s because? How do you impact your neighborhood or your network of people?

LAWTON: After the Buddhist temple, Smith heads over to the Aasafa Islamic Center, to catch a Qur’an memorization class for young immigrants from Bangladesh. Smith is a former bond trader on Wall Street who left business to attend seminary. He now interns at the historic Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. He says visits like this enhance his faith practice.

CHRISTOPHER SMITH: Learning the scriptures is important in many walks of faith, and it’s a struggle for me as a Sunday school teacher. But to see kids dedicated to studying the scriptures on a Saturday afternoon is inspiring.

LAWTON: Carnes encourages his freelance reporters to practice a philosophy of journalism he calls “sympathetic objectivity.”

CARNES: We start off with sympathy right up front. We do move to objectivity, but we tell our reporters, who are from all different walks of faith, as long as you do that you can write, cover anybody you want.

LAWTON: Carnes is open about the fact that he’s an evangelical Christian. But he denies that “A Journey” is a covert effort to convert people. He says the project has affected his own practice.

CARNES: I think I’ve had a really a spiritual transformation. I still am a believer in Jesus and, you know, and an evangelical Christian, but to me it’s a journey of my own faith. “A Journey” has made me more free to listen to people, and that may sound like a small thing, but it’s actually pretty big.

LAWTON: He says he wants people to value what sets them apart.

Tony Carnes

CARNES: We believe that people don’t have to give up their faith to relate to others. We want to say you can talk about your differences. You do things differently, and that’s pretty interesting, and we want to show how interesting things are.

SMITH: Pluralism doesn’t have to mean that everybody comes to the same conclusion eventually. It can mean in a vibrant city like this that there’s many experiences that coexist, sometimes on one street or even in a block.

LAWTON: “A Journey’s” members say they’ve been amazed at how open various houses of worship have been for them. But sometimes, they do strike out. At the end of a long day of journeying, the team often reconvenes at a neighborhood restaurant to debrief. For recent college graduate Chloe Nwangwu, this has been an opportunity to see how what she learned in school works out in real life.

CHLOE NWANGWU: It’s very easy to sort of speak for or assume certain things about religious experiences, but you know, unless you actually go out and get the word on the street you can’t really speak to that.

Chloe Nwangwu

LAWTON: “A Journey’s” firsthand reporting often turns conventional wisdom on its head. For example, in the fall of 2010, when protests erupted over plans to build an Islamic center near Ground Zero, media outlets and political leaders made certain assumptions in talking about the controversy.

CARNES: Everybody said there were, you know, 99 mosques in the city. Well, the problem with that figure is we had visited 170 mosques. We knew that that was just nonsense.

LAWTON: “A Journey” now has 230 mosques on its list.

Sunday morning in the Eldridge Street neighborhood is a vivid picture of how religion in New York continues to evolve. Carnes and his team begin at St. Barbara’s Greek Orthodox Church, where the priest is doing the rituals to prepare for the worship service to come. This used to be a synagogue. St. Barbara’s thrived after its founding in 1926. Now only a few Greek families still live in the parish, although many come back to worship here on holidays.

A few blocks away, the New York Chinese Alliance Church has become one of the establishment congregations. There’s a traditional Protestant service upstairs in Mandarin, and an English service led by the youth downstairs. A few blocks beyond that, Lamb’s Church illustrates even more changes. The evangelical congregation is holding worship in three languages, English, Spanish, and a simultaneous translation into Mandarin. Pastor Gabriel Salguero, who is president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition, says religion is often an underestimated part of the city’s life.

REV. GABRIEL SALGUERO (Lamb’s Church): Faith leaders are thought leaders just like Wall Street and the government; we are one section that influences thought and the direction of the city.

LAWTON: The final Sunday stop is where it all began, the historic Eldridge Street Synagogue, once the jewel of the neighborhood.

MATTIE ETTENHEIM (Eldridge Street Synagogue): People coming through these doors when it was built 125 years ago were living in very small apartments; it was very dirty and very crowded out those streets here, and as you came in here, you really transitioned into another world.

LAWTON: By the 1960s, the building had fallen into disrepair. But after a $20 million restoration project, the synagogue has become a museum, preserving the history and offering programs to help Jews from other neighborhoods explore their traditions, such as this special event to celebrate Tu B’Shevat, the New Year for trees. “A Journey’s” members say New York’s religious diversity is playing out in similar ways throughout the U.S.

SMITH: I think we’re a microcosm of intense interaction, but it happens in a healthy way across the country.

LAWTON: And Carnes says he hopes documenting the challenges, celebrations, and uniqueness of New York religion can be a model for elsewhere.

CARNES: On many things, they’re not goning to agree on everything, but to live with each other, value each other, to cherish each other and to say, well, in these areas where we do agree we can do something for the sake of the city, and if we can do that here in New York, then I think we actually have a paradigm that can work in Cairo, have a paradigm that can work in Mumbai.

LAWTON: I’m Kim Lawton in New York.


The comments on the preview of the show have been duplicated here for convenience of readers.

  • Great! Rare treat, glad I found out about you.

  • As a result of “A Journey Through NYC Religions” great efforts in reporting on all walks of faith it is evident that there is much going on in the churches of NYC as they reach out to their communities.

    Thank-you for your continuing efforts to highlight each and every church and religious institution of NYC. I am encouraged by your efforts to celebrate what makes my church unique and at the same time be more open to unite with other faiths for the good of our community. We can embrace what we believe without feeling threatened by those who believe differently.

    I have found it very educational to visit the “A Journey Through NYC Religions” website on occasion to read and hear about what is happening in the churches of New York and learn about the uniqueness of various faiths.

    Well done Tony and your staff.

  • Thank you Stanley!

  • Tony’s journey persuades me that New York is truly the most religiously tolerant city in the world. What a virtue! In this respect we really ARE a shining city on a hill.

    Deborah Harkins

  • I watched your program BOTH Saturday and Sunday and fould it to be a wonderful program. I was
    very much informative and I will recommend it to others. It should be repeated at a later date.

    Thank you for such wonderful program.

  • Like this!

  • You guys are an inspiration! Particularly moving for us is your commitment to doing journalism out of a place of compassion.

    Journalism is so exciting; like a new foundation being laid.

  • NYC religions,

    This is cutting edge journalism.

    Great job!

  • Hi Tita,

    One of our reporters visited Riverside but I think we didn't get all of the groups that you mentioned! So, we will swing by again!

    Thanks for the info and your thoughtful comments.

  • I really appreciate your visits to religions around NYC. I have good friends who are Catholic, Protestant/Evangelical, Pentacostal, Muslim, Sufi Muslim, Confucian, Reformed/Conservative/Orthodox Jewish, B'hai, Copt, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, humanist, Greek/Eastern Orthodox, new age believers in cosmic energy, you name it. People who are deeply committed to experiencing the spirituality of our lives enrich my life.

    When you next go to the Upper West Side of Manhattan, Riverside Church has not only its own ecumenical service and services (with a protestant minister, catholic priest and jewish rabbi all on staff) but also shelters other faith communities - Ethiopian Coptic, a Chinese protestant group, Morningside Meeting of the Society of Friends (Quakers - and my group that is also connected to religious groups that come together in a prison ministry, a liaison with the NYPD, rabbis for human rights, and other coalitions.)

    Like the old tale about the blind men with an elephant, where one touches the tail, another has a thin circular ear, another has the trunk, still another a leg - and they are all sure whatever part of the elephant they found is what an elephant is. I feel our religious traditions - and even firm "believers" in atheism or agnosticism - are connected to one spirit that we interpret and honor in many different ways.

  • Great program! The flavor of Eldridge Street was palpably. Such a beautiful neighborhood. I visited the museum and the feeling was still very spiritual.

  • Would you like to visit an A.M.E. church in Brooklyn?

  • Thanks! Your encouragement helps to go along the journey. Best.

  • Discovered you from RENW/pbs, ch 13.

    Fantastic work!!!

  • I just saw the Religion & Ethics Newsweekly piece on you and I am deeply impressed! I hope you can get to the NYC Baha'i Center soon at 53 E 11th St, New York, NY 10003, phone (212) 674-8998. NYC holds a special place in the heart of American Baha'is.

    Blessings and peace on you all. Thank you for your work.

  • I'm a former New Yorker so I can really appreciate this website. What a wonderful thing you have put together here. I am truly at awe. THANK YOU!

  • Rob, Thanks! We have visited a few of these sites but glad to get the update!

  • I saw your story on PBS and checked out your website, and thought you might have missed a couple, so I have posted them below.

    All the best,

    Staten Island: Staten Island Friends Meeting

    Manhattan: Morningside Friends Meeting
    Meets in Riverside Church in New York City. Enter at 91 Claremont Ave.

    Manhattan: Fifteenth Street Friends Meeting and Manhattan Monthly Meeting (Programmed)
    15 Rutherford Place, New York, NY 10003, (212)475-0466

    Flushing: Flushing Friends Meeting. Another Flushing web page.
    137-16 Northern Boulevard
    Flushing, New York 11354
    Meeting Building built in 1694

    Brooklyn: Brooklyn Friends Meeting
    110 Schermerhorn Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201, 212-777-8866

    The Quaker United Nations Office (QUNO)
    777 United Nations Plaza
    New York, NY 10017

  • Thanks you for this information. I fully align with your quest! 7 years ago I created a 900+ website on 21st Century American Spiritual Paths. I receive over 1000 hits a month from all over the world. It is a pure service project.
    About 30 years ago I became an Interfaith minister at The New Seminary in Greenwich Village NYC.
    There are 2 interfaith seminaries now in NYC .. you might enjoy connecting with them.
    I am now 78 and live in a small town in Fl – Lake Mary. My center is called The Sanctuary of Sophia.(the sanctuary of the divine feminine). I gave my life to Christ many years ago and he has let me on a path of seeking Oneness ..with God/Goddess and all there is and to teach that path. Still honoring each unique path to God.
    My work now is to help people more fully understand Oneness.. the interconnection of all life.
    just Google my name Rev, Ann Emerson and all 3 sites will come up … Please feel free to contact me if I can be of any support to your important work. Ann

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  • Agree - CARNES: On many things, they’re not going to agree on everything, but to live with each other, value each other, to cherish each other and to say, well, in these areas where we do agree we can do something for the sake of the city, and if we can do that here in New York, then I think we actually have a paradigm that can work in Cairo, have a paradigm that can work in Mumbai.
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  • A Journey through NYC Religions was featured on PBS Religion & Ethics News Weekly. Huzzah! Major kudos to Tony Carnes, for his continual dedication to show this city as the beautiful and diverse city that she is. And that there is a different way to tell people's story. You inspire us! Melissa Kimiadi Christopher Smith

  • Fabulous exploration of NYC Religions. Thanks, Kim & Tony!!

  • Very interesting.

  • I am beaming from ear to ear. A Journey team strikes again with coverage from PBS's Religion and Ethics. While I'm so very sorry to have missed a fun filled day reporting with PBS, I couldn't be more proud of the team! Bravo! Tony Carnes, Darilyn Carnes, Christopher Smith, Maria Karlya

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  • Congratulations! Fantastic video!!

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  • I'd love to see it. This ought to be very interesting.

  • It would be interesting for most towns. For New York City -- or even just a borough of it, or even just certain blocks -- it could well be a lifelong addicting obsession to go through this info. Because one would have to figure everything's been there. Even things we couldn't begin to imagine if it were not for this project.

  • Thank you for this fantastic video! “A Journey Through NYC Religions” is impacting how we understand and study beliefs, cultures, and practices of different faith groups – not just in NYC but all over the world.

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